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This is just too funny.

Special Guest Post

A friend of mine wrote me this letter, i think it deserves its own post.

Dear G-X-C,

Your post raised many issues that are common to all of us. By "all of us" I mean jews who are gay and are either from a frum background or trying to live a frum life.

The first issue is how do we reconcile the contradiction between the Torah and our feelings, instincts and basic drives? If we want to live as frum (chassidish, yeshivish or whatever) Jews and we accept that the Torah must be followed without trying to reinterpret any single part of it, what then do we do about our sexuality?

Obviously, there are several options: * Go fully gay and ignore the Torah (one extreme)* Go for the full Torah option and have no sex life, including masturbation (the other extreme)* Follow the 612 mitzvos and "reinterpret" the one about homosexuality (or some other position between the two extremes).

Don't forget that no two gay people are alike: the degree of same-sex attraction - and the degree of inability to function sexually with the opposite sex - varies across a spectrum. Some find the mere thought of sex with the opposite gender repulsive, while others are able to function sexually with both genders, (although they have a preference for one or the other). Generally speaking, most of those who are able to function with the opposite sex choose to marry. Because societal pressure to marry is so strong, they ignore the very serious risks of discovery if they have gay sex on the side. Many also believe [naively] that marriage will "cure" them. Many are also simply self-deluded and repress their own gay instincts, refusing to admit it even to themselves.

I believe - and this is my own feeling, not based on any evidence - that you G-X-C are a minority. Only a very small percentage of frum gays choose to abandon frumkeit, live a gay life and come out to their family. Don't misunderstand me, I am not being judgmental. I admire your honesty and bravery. I couldn't do it and I wouldn't, for several reasons: I am able to function sexually in a marital situation and I am committed to a Torah way of life. BUT if my situation were different, I doubt I would have the balls to do what you are doing.

The issues and choices we all face and struggle with are monumental. Most of us struggle with them alone, and from a young age, with no support, nobody to turn to and no-one to understand us, let alone validate us and tell us we are basically good people who have been dealt a difficult hand by life. Nobody - no-one - who has not stood in our shoes is capable of understanding this, of truly empathizing with us and feeling what we feel.

This leads to the role of family. Let's digress for a moment and look at the wider world around us. Consider the average middle American teenager from suburbia who comes out to his parents and family. Despite the political correctness prevalent in the media and the greater openness towards gays by society at large, we all know that this is only on the surface. Dig a little deeper and you will find the same prejudice and discrimination that have been around since time immemorial. I mean, Mr and Mrs Middle American may be OK having a gay interior decorator or watching a sitcom which includes a gay, a black and the occasional Hispanic or Jew, but if their own son or brother announces he is gay.... well, that's a whole different ball game.

Now, multiply all that by a factor of thousands when it comes to Choosid-ville. There can be no greater stigma suffered by a family from the ghetto. You can still get Maftir on Yom Kippur if you are caught with your pants down in a whorehouse, and certainly if you are caught lying, stealing or cheating. If your son or daughter goes off the derech, well that's no big deal now anymore ("it happens in the best mishpachos"). But if your son or brother decides to become gay, well that's something they can never live down.

Did I say "decides" to become gay? Yes, G-X-C, you explained in your post that your family believes it's a choice you made. How do you expect them to understand otherwise? Has anyone ever given them any kind of education about sexuality etc. Don't they also realize if you did have a choice, you would "choose" very quickly not to be gay? Your family members lack the tools to understand the issues you have been struggling with all your life and the hell you have been through.

The only thing they understand is the stigma and the pain associated with having to bear that stigma. The amount of gossip that goes on in Choosid-ville is just humongous! Your family's neighbours, friends, relatives and associates just make "tzimmes" about your case. They are having the time of their lives with it, and all that is driving your family crazy. You can't blame their instinct to lash out at you for "causing" all that. Are they "ashamed" of you? You bet they are! Do they want you around, in public at their simcha, for everyone to whisper behind their back about? You bet they don't.

I know for a fact that there are gays out there in the frum world who have come out to family and not been rejected by them. Yes, there are some frum - even Chasidish - parents out there who are evolved enough to understand that their children need love, unconditional love. And that although they may not be able to "cure" their child's homosexual drives, they can give him [or her] a warm loving home. But I am pretty sure parents and families like these are a very small minority. We the majority, whether silent or out in the open, can only dream - and pray - that one day all parents - frum or not - will be the same.

Family: Can't live with-em, Can't kill-em

When it comes to family, I'm very confused. What role do they play in my life? What role do i play in theirs ?

Family members are supposed to love you unconditionally. Be there for you when you need them. give you support, physically, emotionally, and psychologically. The problem I'm having, is, that while all this might be true in theory, in real life the opposite is true.

My family only knows how to show conditional love. If i make them proud, follow in their footstep, don't disagree with anything they say, basically, be a puppet, they will love me. If i follow my own dreams, have my own opinion, do things differently than they do, they won't love me, on the contrary, they resent me for making their life more complicating.

What the hell? i have to choose between being true to myself and being happy. or be a puppet, and live my life with no vitality, and feeling dead inside. how does one choose between these two options?

One of my sisters, who i was very close with growing up and I've been there for her over the years many times, had nothing to say to me after coming out to her, and i haven't heard from her in two ans a half years; except for family weddings (the ones i attend) in which case she comes over to me and wants to schmooze as if we were continuing a conversation from the day before. the last time this happened (a few weeks ago) i let her have it, and put her in her place.

another sister who i happened to be close with, was on the phone with me last month. she says to me, "I'll see you later" i said whats later? she says our brother is making a bar mitzvah in a few hours. i didn't really mind that i wasn't invited, i minded that he couldn't tell me that, maybe, his son is not comfortable with my hair, dress code, etc. i saw him (my brother) at a wedding and said to him mazel tov on your son's bar mitzvah, he commented as if everything were normal. a little while later he comes over with his 2 sons (including the bar mitzvah boy) and asks me to take photos of them, as if everything is just peachy. i guess my family has a major talent for sweeping things under the rug. Lets not talk about the elephant in the china shop.

At this point i chose the latter, i need to be myself, i need to express myself freely, follow my goals and dreams, i can't live my life any other way. My family needs to (from their perspective) be true to their religion and be god's lawyer and resent me for living a different life than they do. Well, if you ask me, god has a pretty crappy lawyer.

All this is before bringing up my issue of sexuality, which they refuse to discuss. As far as they are concerned, being gay is a choice, and i made a bad choice in my life. I don't know how they feel about it, since they wouldn't talk to me about it. I think they are embarrassed with me, as well as uncomfortable discussing any type of sexuality, let alone "being gay".

At this point i gave up on them. i live my life with a motto i heard from a friend a while back, "friends are god's way of apologize for your family. Thank god for my good friends, who are there for me and share my good fortune as well as the hard times.

If we could raise one generation with unconditional love, there would be no Hitlers. We need to teach the next generation of children from Day One that they are responsible for their lives. Mankind's greatest gift, also its greatest curse, is that we have free choice. We can make our choices built from love or from fear.
Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

any thoughts?

A Story i came accross.

i doubt that its a true story, but i enjoyed reading it anyway.

This is a shocking personal account of a Brooklyn Yeshiva boy, brutally raped in the mikva by a gang of Satmar Hassidim!Shocking!!!

Dear ***********,I am writing to you because I understand that you have helped others in difficult situations and that you have access to certain channels that can get things accomplished. I write this to you out of utter desperation as I have exhausted all other options and feel that you might be my only hope. I will tell you my story: My name is *************. I am a 21 year old Yeshiva bochur learning at ******** Yeshiva in Brooklyn. I live in ********* which as you probably know is a mixed Litvish-Chassidish Neighborhood. I would not consider myself Chassidish at all but my family has some chassidish minhogim going back many generations to when my great great grandfather was chassidish. Because of this my father grows a short beard, wears a gartel when he's davening and we daven nusach Sfard. Other than that we have a minhog in my family to go to the mikva before Yomim Tovim such as Peisach, Sevuos, Rosh Hashona, Yom Kipur and Sukkos. I know it's somewhat unusual for frum men to to do this but we view it as a family tradition. My father has been going regularly but I never took it so seriously. I have been becoming more shtark in Yeshiva lately so this year I decided to take it more seriously. I had heard stories from my married older sister about homosexual behavior she been subject to in the mikva but I assumed this only went on in the womens mikva, as lesbianism is allowed according to halocho, but male homosexuality is not. This year on monday Arpril 2nd which was erev Peisach I went to the ******* mikva on **** street in Boro Park. When I entered I was a bit taken aback by the sea of chassidish men of all ages bathing and frolicking around. I notices a sea of eyes all converge upon the only visible Litvisher in the entire hall. I felt somewhat odd undressing in front of so many other people but I did it any way and entered the heated water of the large mikva. There were many naked chassidim bathing in the water. The water had a foul smell and it had a heavy yellow sheen of oil on top which was obviously from all the unwashed chassidish men who use the mikva as their weekly bath. I was very shocked to see the many couples of men who were engaging in all sorts of sexual acts from french kissing to full anal sex. There were also groups of men and boys engaging in group sex all together. At that point I became aware of the fact that the consistency of the water was heavy with semen and from bathing in the water I had become covered in semen excretions. This was quite nauseating and I tried to submerge myself in the water to free my skin of the ejaculated semen which was sticking to my forearms, back, neck and face like glue. After a few dunks I came to the surface and realised that there is so much seamen in the water that no matter how much I shake off more will only catch on (which was by now firmly embedded in my ears, nostrils, eyelids and mouth) and that the only way to remove it was to leave the heated pool and take a shower with soap. I motioned to leave the orgysome jacuzy when 3 chassidish bochurim approached me. They were pale and ugly with scragly beards and long twirly payos. 2 of them were about 19 or 20 and the third was about 14. I noticed through the chest level water that they all had erections. They began asking me in Yiddish who I am and where I'm from and why it is that I don't have a beard and Payos. I explained that I am a Misnaged and that we don't grow beards and long payos. They told retorted quite tersely that that is kefira and that only shkutzim and women don't have beards. They told me that if I liked looking like a women then I could act like a women for them. I asked them what they meant and they told me they wanted a "metzitza bapey" which is Yiddish slang for a blow job. I was quite shocked and told them that I am not gay and moved to leave. I felt one of the older boys hands on my penis as he said "you will be gay for us today, tomorrow you can go back to being straight". I screamed out loudly for help and jolted for the ladder out of the mikva but by that time they all had their hands on me and had me pinned down. many heads turned to my from across the mikva from my shout but nobody did or said anything. They were all too busy having sex with each other to help me. I felt they boys hands all over my body and an index finger enter my anus. I thrashed around in the water trying to break free of the three but to no avail. They held me firmly with my right arm pinned behind my back as they continued fondling my penis and anus. The boys were obviously getting a lot of joy out of this and laughed outloud as they carried out their dirty deeds. One of them pulled my head down towards his submerged penis and shouted to me to give him the metzitza bapey. I started crying uncontrollably which made them laugh even louder. I told him that I would never suck him off and that if they didn't release me immediately I would call the police. They burst out laughing and said "try to call them!! haha! you really scare us!". The only holding my arm behind my back kicked my legs apart with his knee and bent me over till my face was submerged in the filthy water and couldn't breath. I then felt his penis enter my rectum which made me recoil in pain. I flipped my head out of the water and shrieked! The pain was unbearable and I begged him to stop. He refused and said that i should just shut up and try to enjoy it. After about 2-3 minute (I can't say for sure, it was unbearable) he ejaculated and removed his penis from my rectum. I thought they would release me then but they didn't. the other older boy who along with the 14 year old had been masturbating while watching the third one sodomise me took hold of me from his friend and began to rape me as well. By his second thrust my rectum began to bleed and the water of the mikva began to turn a dark pink from all the blood released into the water. I kept shreaking from pain but they just kept on laughing and the one raping me held my mouth shut with his palm to stop me from screaming. The others slapped me in the face and laughed at how red my cheeks were. As soon as the third one finished the 14 year old took his turn who was followed by an overweight 40 year old chassidish mad who had been watching the incident and asked the boys "for a ride". His rape was especially brutal and from panic and the sheer force of the sodomy I began to defecate in the water. This caused the boys to burst out laughing once again. The fat 40 year old saw that his penis was covered in my fecal matter and he slapped me very hard across the face as soon as he ejaculated, breaking my glasses in the process. By the end of the ordeal I vomited in the water and passed out. When I woke up I was laying on the tiled floor outside of the bath, not too far from the waters edge. My anus was horribly sore and there was a pool of blood and fecal mater all around me. My attackers were gone. It was close to yomtov and there was almost no one left in the mikva. I struggled to my feet and barely made it to the changing area. I looked for my clothes but realised they had been stolen. I grabbed the first set of clothes I could find and ran outside hoping to catch a taxi but realised that my wallet and cellphone where also in my stolen clothes. I asked many chassidish women around me on the street for help but they refused to speak to me and hurried away. I finally found 1 chassidish man but he refused to speak to me as well and motioned me to leave him alone. I somehow managed to run home and told the shocking story to my parents who couldn't believe what happened to me. Right after Yomtov I went with my father to the ***** precinct to file an official police report. The officer taking the report Sgt ***** was very helpful, understanding and courteous. He explained that the NYPD handles rape as a serious crime and that they follow this until there is a conviction. They explained that rape is a fellony punishable by over 30 years in jale. I had a medical examination by a doctor working for the police and they took samples of semen from my anus and DNA from under my fingernails. they asked me to give them a description of the men involved and I did so to the best of my ability bus as you know, chassidim all look alike so that didn't really help.Through certain back channels I heard that the names of the boys that attacked me were **************, of Boro Park ************also of Boro Park, and **************** or Williamsburg. The name of the older man I did not receive. I passed this information on to the police and they have been investigating this seriously though they have not as yet made any arrests. My family has received dozens of death threats since the police investigation began all in Yiddish saying that the Neturei Karta knows how to a deal with a moser and that we will soon all be killed for turning in Yidden to goyish police. I am now turning to you Mr ********** as I know that nobody will corroborate my testimony as all those dozens of chassidim who witnessed the rape will never admit to police and will do whatever it takes to cover the rapists backs. Even if they are arrested they won't be able to hold them for more than 24 hours as they need more evidence that they can get. What I am requesting from you is that you contact the people I know you are connected with to handle this matter in a way that they know best. I'm sure you know which people I am referring to and the actions that will have to be taken. I only ask you this because I have exhausted all other options and you are my only and last hope. I am asking you to please not reveal my identity to anyone as you know what that will do to my chances of ever finding a normal shidduch. It can also destroy the good name of my family and all future shidduch opportunities of my younger brothers and sisters so please keep this as discreet as possible. You can reach me at (718) ***-**** at home and at my cellphone (***) ***-****. If you call me at home please do not discuss this with any of my younger siblings, they were not told of the incident. Please try to speak to only me or my father reb ***************. His number at work is (718) ***-****. His cellphone is (***)***-****. We have been in constant contact with Rabbi **********. He is helping us with this in any way he can and understands the situation well. You can reach him at (718)***-****.I thank you from the depth of my heart.

marry for love or for your dad?

This sweet seventeen year old chassidish girl i know, who is in love (secretly of course)with another chassidish boy, is being forced to marry another chassidish boy, whom she doesn't know nor care to know. her dad arranged this shiduch and doesn't care whether she likes it or not. some of her siblings are telling her to break it off before its too late, before she gets herself into a loveless, sad, trapped relationship. while other siblings are threatening her and telling her "don't you dare break it off" or "if you break it off you are going to end up a shiksah".

what is up with these people? what is wrong with marrying a chassidish boy whom you actually like? is the father being spiteful? i don't know, is he o.k. with his daughter being in a miserable, loveless relationship as long as he has the last word? apparently so.

i actually had a chance to speak to her on the phone a few weeks ago, and told her, "honey, love is not easy to find, and when you do find it, you better grab it. do whatever you need to do to make it happen or you are going to regret it for the rest of your life". she heard me, but she is getting such pressure that she can't or is to afraid to do anything about it.

it is very sad to see another intelligent girl getting into another one of those well known "loveless marriages" where life is about cooking, having babies, shopping on the avenue, and gossiping on the telephone. when are these people gonna learn that it is o.k. for two people to like, even love each other before breaking the plate and the glass. what the hell is it with these people? i think they just grab a guy and a girl and say " they are both chassidish, speak for an hour and we'll break out the old williamsburg and have a shot". NU! WHEN IS THE WEDDING?

i think in her case, its one of her brothers who apparently has his own agenda. maybe he is in one of those loveless marriages himself? who knows, these days there are so many of those. then these marriages end up with her not caring anymore. getting into an endless addiction of food, shopping, gossiping etc. and him getting into hanging out with his buddies, cruising for sex, alcohol, drugs, the list is endless.

and what about the kids in those marriages? they feel and know that their parents are not in love and don't even like each other? what is it teaching them about marriage and love? a lot, unfortunately not the right things. how are they supposed to learn about being in a loving relationship, treating each other with love and respect, compromise, nothing like that. they see doom, yes their own doom, when the time comes they too will end up with a spouse, and not knowing what to look for they too will end up in a loveless marriage, and the cycle will continue

And where are the rabbi's in these situations? where is their leadership? are they there only to sit at the head of table, get attention, get paid and get their picture in the newspaper? why are they not making sure their people are content, even happy? why are they not looking out for the next generation? what kind of leaders are they?

I think at this point it is less then two months away from her wedding and she is doing the shopping and getting ready for a loveless marriage that is doomed from the start, like a sheep to the slaughter. how sad.

Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
Steve Jobs (1955 - )

any thoughts?

Looking for Love

I wonder if he noticed me
notice him,
i cant look away
or don't want to.

a handsome fellow with a heart of gold,
i ache for his beautiful lips on mine,
and want to feast on him
feasting on me,

have i finally met my man?
nah, too good to be true,
he's probably straight and married,
oh well such is life.

will it ever happen?
will i meet my prince?
it is taking too damn long
my patience is running thin.

how do i go on living
a so called charmed life
pretending all is well
when really its hell,

inside i feel
like a dying star
on the threshold of a black hole
holding on for as long as i can,

as the black hole swallows me
i turn the other cheek
on my loving pillow
and hope for sweet dreams,

A blast from the past

Yesterday i went to the Yeshiva office i went to as a kid and as a teen. i needed my transcripts for college. while there i bumped in to a chosid that knew my family. he started freaking out on me, saying, whats with the hair and the rings? why don't you look normal? i said to him "whats normal?" he says payos and a beard. i said to him where is it written that that's normal? he says nowhere, i said "exactly".then i said to him who is normal are you normal? he says yes, i said yeah right, the only thing that's normal is a cycle on the washing machine. he says but why the long hair? i said i am a nozir and don't cut my hair. he didn't give up, he said where are your payos? i said my shiur is on the top of my head and i have huge payos on both sides of my head. then later he started about my jewelry, why do you wear rings, and with a yarmulkah? i responded i am only wearing a yarmulkah out of respect for you. so he says "so take off your rings as well" i said i don't think so, wearing a yarmulkah is as far i will go for you guys, i have been hiding and pretending long enough, I'm wearing a yarmulkah out of respect, but that's as far as i will ever go for you. needless to say the girls in the office were listening to the whole conversation with their jaws dropped.

i loved every minute of it.

Tfillin

Sometimes it is worth the extra money to write out your whole name on your Tfillin.

Most Israelis would accept a gay child

Kobi Nahshoni

07.07.07 - www.YnetNews.com


“And if your son came to you and said, ‘Dad, I’m gay,’ how would you respond?”

If you’ve ever joined in a living-room chat, there’s no way you haven’t been asked that question. The uproar surrounding Jerusalem’s Gay pride events has abated, and now, a couple of weeks' later, we have some answers: According to a Ynet-Gesher poll, 73 percent of respondents would accept a gay child, even if it’s difficult, but for 27 percent a child’s coming out of the closet would affect the relationship with the child.

The survey was conducted by Mutagim among a representative nationwide sample of the adult, Hebrew-speaking Jewish population.

A mother’s heart

In answer to the question, “How would you respond if your son or daughter informed you that they have homosexual tendencies?” 43 percent stated that they would be very sorry but would accept their child and the child’s partner as they are, while 30 percent stated that “if this is what is good for him, I have no problem with it,” making a total of 73 percent who said they would accept their child’s homosexual tendencies.

In contrast, 15 percent said they would be very angry with the child but would maintain the minimal contact necessary, and 12 percent stated that homosexual relations are in the category of “be killed rather than transgress” and that therefore they would cut off contact with a gay child.

An analysis of the findings shows that women have greater tolerance on this issue than men: 79 percent of the mothers said that they would accept their children in spite of their sexual preference, and only 21 percent would let it harm their connection with their child, as opposed to 66 percent and 34 percent respectively for fathers.

Harder for haredim

Haredim, as expected, would have a very extreme response, with 55 percent stating that they would cut off all contact with the child, 35 percent saying they would cut off some contact, and only 10 percent stating that they would accept the situation.

Among the religious, 40 percent stated that they would be sorry but would be forced to accept the situation, 27 percent would cut off contact, 26 percent would maintain minimal contact, and only 7 percent stated that “if that is what is good for the child, I have no problem with it.”

Among respondents who are religiously traditional and secular there is more acceptance (70 percent and 86 percent, respectively), but there are still those who would cut off all contact with their child (8 percent of traditional respondents and 9 percent of secular respondents).

straight guys (?) watching football

straight guys on the DL

Iran funny clip

Did you know that the President of Iran is gay?
here is the proof.

More pics from San Francisco

Here are some more photos from the Folsom street fair.

enjoy

My visit to San Francisco

I was in San Francisco for Sukkot. i had a wonderful time. besides seeing all the beautiful places, i met many great people. the gay and lesbian life is so obvious that in some areas you need a bumper sticker to let everyone know you are straight. what a beautiful thing.

One of the highlights of my trip was the "Folsom street fair" its a once a year leather and s&m street fair. it was amazing. people dressed up in costumes, people in leather, a lot of naked men and woman, and of course people getting whipped, it was wild. i took a lot of photos some of which I'll share with you.

i also visited the gay and lesbian synagogue, which was a very nice experience. i really like the services. it has been a long time since I've been in a Shul or prayed. i met some nice people there and i can actually see myself living there.

i know many people in n.y. who are o.k. with gay people are fine with talking about it, but in San Francisco i was with my friend (a girl) visiting her partner at work (a girl) and referring to her as her husband, what a beautiful thing.
yes. i can definitely see myself living there.

i will post more pictures in the next several days. enjoy

San Francisco

Hello my fello readers,

sorry i havent written in a while. i am visiting friends in san francisco.
i had a wonderful time. as soon as i get home i will write about my trip and experiences.

more to come soon
g-x-c

Happy New Year

Wishing all my readers a happy, healthy and prosperous new year.

whether you're staying home, visiting relatives, or traveling to your rabbi, or maybe uman. i hope you all have a happy and joyous time.

all the best
g-x-c

Leah Kleim raising money for Jews in jail

The very famous/infamous Leah Kleim has been very busy in the last week or so. she is calling around everywhere to try and raise money to bail out two haimishe boys who were arrested last week. she would love to get them home before rosh hashono. bail for both boys is 150k. the problem is, it is difficult to get the help of chabad.

usually when one travels in the u.s. or abroad, everyone knows to look for or contact a chabad house. be it for kosher food, minyan, or a place for shabbos. in this case however, even when the chabad shluchim who were contacted say they are gonna help out, as soon as they hear that leah kleim is involved they back off, even if it means that the boys are not going to get their much awaited tfilin and kosher food.

all the chabad shluchim don't like leah kleim, are afraid of her and don't want anything to do with her. the reason for this is because she has been posting all their dirty deeds on the net, with names and sometimes photos as well. all the chabad people who have flirted with her, did numerous dirty deeds in front of her etc. (use your imagination) was posted on the net for all to see.

The history of leah kleim and chabad is a long one. she was raised in chabad loves the Rebbe and the chassidus, what she doesn't like is all the b.s. that comes along with it, or the people who use the community to further their own agendas. growing up in crown heights, leah was looked down upon, mistreated, and considered an outcast. whether this was because she was rebellious, less religious then they were, partied, etc, who knows. it reminds me of the age old question "what came first the chicken or the egg?" was she mistreated because she was rebellious? or was she rebellious because she was mistreated?

now, because of all the bad history of leah kleim and chabad, there are 2 young guys sitting in jail in the middle of nowhere, with no help. they might end up all alone for rosh hashono in a prison surrounded by goyim. with no shofar or kosher food. so not only are they in prison suffering the consequence of their actions, they are also suffering the consequences of other peoples actions. the chabad shluchim, be it out of fear, hate, or indifference, are refusing to help these poor jewish souls. all because some shluchim couldn't keep their pants zipped up. well if they came to me and unzipped their pants, i wouldn't have posted anything about it, especially if they were good in bed. you know what they say, a good man is hard to find.

but all jokes aside, these people really need help. and the only people who are willing to help are leah kleim and 2 other ex-chassidic guys, who flew down to where the boys are, are making phone calls all over, are visiting the guys in jail. and doing real mitzvos bain odom la'cha'vairo, a week before rosh hashono.
if anyone of you can help and are willing to do so, go to leah kleim's blog. she posted her phone no. so you can call. http://babyboiiluvu.blogspot.com/
tizku le'mitzvos.

Comment from a blogger

A blogger posted this comment on my blog. i responded to him and i wanted to share it with all of you. i would greatly appreciate your feedback.

g-x-c

"You may be born with a tendency to be homosexual. The question is what do you do about it.

Kids are born with a tendency to like other kids. Most as they grow older like older kids and so on.

Some continue to like little kids. If this remains the focus of their desires after they reach the sexual stage, society doesn't tolerate it. The beginning of this post indicates that the poster wouldn't tolerate it either.

Some people are not satisfied with one sexual partner. Some people are only satisfied with other people's wives. Most groups will not tolerate such a person for very long.

Homosexuality and heterosexuality in Judaism are not desires or orientations, they are actions. If a man lusts after men, or other men's wives, or after nidahs (nidoth, women who didn't go to the mikvah), as long as it remains in the thoughts only stage, does not lead to denigration or ostracism. Neither does my desire to have your house or car. it is only when these desires lead to the action stage that there is a problem.

Everyone has a desire for forbidden things. Different people have different desires.

Nor does the halacha discriminate against guys who like guys. The halacha is the same for everyone - no sex outside of marriage, and then only after mikvah.

If a heterosexual guy is ugly as sin, below average financially, has bad breath and body odor and has reached the age of thirty without ever getting a date, we do not tell him - you know what, go to a professional cause you will never find anyone to marry you. We tell him no.




gay-ex-choosid said...
it is interesting to note, that society is o.k. with certain sins,
and are not o.k. with other sins.
i believe that chilul hashem is the worse sin of all. yet stealing, and fights between Jewish communities and their leaders, which is mentioned in all the newspapers across the globe and cause a great chilul hashem, is tolerated. but my having a desire to have a relationship with a man, is not.

the gemorah also mentions, that when a man has a desire to be with another woman. he should go to another town where people don't know him and do it there. so there are exceptions to the rule.
you also mentioned lusting after a friends house, or wife, which is mentioned in the Ten Commandments, whereas homosexuality is not. there are plenty of sins that people are known to commit, but society accepts it, because it is something they relate to. homosexuality, however, some people don't get it, and so they shun it, because its not a desire they have.

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Hi guys sorry i haven't written in awhile. i was away at camp. yes its true a camp for gay and lesbian adults, i had a blast.

the camp is up in Maine and we had many activities, things i had never done before, like, pottery, jewelry making, stained glass, a rope course, canoeing, kayaking, sailing, hiking, and much much more.

in the evening we had different things going on like a talent show, gay games, dances, star gazing and much more. there were also late night movies with a huge popcorn machine. dances with a d.j. i also got myself a camera before camp so i took over 400 photos and met many gay and lesbian people from all over the country and from other countries. there was actually a woman from Israel.

we also had a few orthodox Jews, and we had a Friday night candle lighting ceremony and then we did kiddish and had fresh Challah, it was quite an experience.

i feel like a have a whole new community, with loving people who accept me as i am with all my uniqueness and faults. what a difference from the way i grew up.

it was also the first time i enjoyed camp. growing up camp was a prison, i hated every moment. i have nightmares and a lot of bad memories from my childhood camp experience, so this was all the more special to me.

i'm glad to be back and hope to hear from you all.

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Homophobic Frummies

Every once in a while when i come across homophobic frummies i wonder, why is it that some frum people are open minded and compassionate to the gay and lesbian issues while others are so homophobic?


some people say "but its mentioned in the torah" well first of all the torah doesn't say you shouldn't be gay, the torah forbids anal sex only. secondly, the torah says toaivo, which is translated in the gemara as you are mistaken in this(toah ata bo), while many things that are forbidden in the torah are not so frowned upon as this issue. loshon horah for example, according to the chofetz chaim has about 14 negative commandments and 6 positive commandments, and that is a widely acceptable thing. and chilul hashem is the worst avaira of them all and frummies are o.k. with frum people who are in jail for robbing and cheating the government and doing all kinds of schtick that give the frum community a bad name, and they are not only not frowned upon, on the contrary they are excepted and supported. there are all kinds of organizations that help frum people who are in prison, sending them food, reading material,giving them concerts on chol ha'moed, etc. and if they find out someone is gay they are ostracized from the community and can forget about any support what so ever.



The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision.
Lynn Lavner - as published in PFLAG